Answering Missionaries

June 16, 2006

Shabir Ally Vs James White debate: critical review and summarisation of arguments

“Is the New Testament as it exists today the inspired word of God?”

Debate summarisation and critical review

Shabir Ally and James White had a debate at the Biola University on 7th May, 2006. As is rather obvious from the topic, the purpose of the debate was to determine whether or not the New Testament, as it exists today, is the inspired word of God.

I will say a few words about the speakers. Shabir Ally is a very eloquent speaker, a fine debater, and highly knowledgeable when it comes to comparative religion. Shabir Ally is currently completing his Phd in Quranic interpretation. In the past he has debated people ranging from Robert Morey, Joseph Smith, to the well-known Christian philosopher, scholar and debater, Dr William Lane Craig. Moreover, Shabir Ally is an exceedingly polite and gentle speaker. Having watched over a dozen of his talks and debates, I can’t recall an instance where he was harsh or rude towards an opponent. James White, on the other hand, is also a fine debater and a rather fast speaker, having recently debated New Testament scholars such as Dominic Crossan and Marcus Borg. Dr. White has also authored a number of books on the Bible.

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Additional input from a Muslim debate attendee who questioned James White

Filed under: Debate reviews,James White — answeringmissionaries @ 11:39 pm

Some noise was raised a little while ago about the conduct of a few Muslim individuals who were alleged to have been quite rude towards James White during the break-time. James White himself says this much in one of his Dividing Line talks. Previously, I argued that if what is alleged was true, then these individuals committed a disgraceful act and that there was no reason whatsoever to be rude and offensive towards James White even if he was distorting the truth at times (the misinformation about Ibn Masud’s fictitious beating. See this and this). I presented this case in the following paper:

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June 11, 2006

Comments from a Muslim who attended the debate: the use of sources

Filed under: Addressing James White polemics,Debate reviews,James White — answeringmissionaries @ 12:47 am

As some of you might have noticed, a few days ago I received some comments regarding the Shabir Ally Vs James White debate by a Muslim who attended this debate. I have decided to post his interesting comments on the main blog:

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May 25, 2006

THE AFTERMATH OF DEBATE

Filed under: Debate reviews,James White,Shabir Ally vs James White — answeringmissionaries @ 6:44 pm

THE AFTERMATH OF DEBATE

Shabir Ally

May 24, 2006

Recently James White has expressed some concern as to whether or not I am still in “debate mode.” I can appreciate the concern. I myself would much prefer to leave the debate alone for others to analyze, and move on to other matters which I have had to leave aside for the moment while I deal with questions arising out of this debate. Actually, I had the impression that it was James who intended to add to the debate. Soon after the debate he had posted a blog giving his views on it. Following that, he discussed the matter more extensively on Dividing Line a couple of days after the debate. I indicated to him that I had listened to that broadcast. Then, in the next edition of Dividing Line he continued his discussion of the contents of our debate. In that episode he greeted me directly in case I was listening.

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May 24, 2006

Nazam Iqbal’s review of Shabir Ally and James White debate entitled: “Is the New Testament as it is today the inspired word of God?”

Filed under: Debate reviews,James White,Shabir Ally vs James White — answeringmissionaries @ 6:54 pm

Nazam Iqbal

After listening to the Debate between Dr James White and Shabir Ally, I was disappointed that Dr White could not give one reason as to why anyone should take the New Testament in the first place to be the inspired word of God especially when it does not make such a claim (the exception being the book of Revelation). Dr White, despite being given the platform to do so, came instead with an agenda to give his rebuttals to debates which Ally had done in the past with other Christians even though the topic of the debate was ‘Is the New Testament as it is today the Word of God?’

Dr White thought he could shift the burden of proof upon Ally by making him prove why we should believe in the prophethood of prophet Muhammed or the Quran to be the Word of God but obviously this was not the nights topic even though Ally did briefly address it.

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May 11, 2006

Rambo strikes back – a reply to Patrick Chan

Filed under: Debate reviews,Dialogue/Debates,Shabir Ally vs James White — answeringmissionaries @ 1:57 am

Me

In response to my comments in his blog, Mr. Patrick Chan later decided to write a detailed and a very polite response to my questions in a blog entry entitled: A little rumba with Rambo. As you will see, Patrick mostly raised irrelevant issues, but I like him due to his decent and friendly behaviour, which is difficult to find in Christian apologists these days. So, later I also decided to write a friendly reply to Patrick as well. Below is my response:

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Shabir Ally vs. James White debate – response to a Christian review part 2

Filed under: Debate reviews,James White,Shabir Ally vs James White — answeringmissionaries @ 1:12 am

This is my response, using the Rambo alias, to another review authored by a Christian named Fred Butler. Butler is not that bright actually, appears to know little about New Testament studies, and I strongly suspect he is a racist after reading some of his offensive comments about the “Arab culture.”

My reply:1

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Shabir Ally vs. James White debate – response to a Christian review part 1

Filed under: Debate reviews,James White,Shabir Ally vs James White — answeringmissionaries @ 12:50 am

On the 7th May, 2006, Muslim debater Shabir Ally and Christian apologist James White had a debate on the topic: “Is the New Testament As It Exists Today the Inspired Word of God?”

Already, a few Christians who attended the debate have started putting up some reviews of this debate on their blogs.1 Most Christian reviewers naturally side with their guy James White, but cracks are beginning to appear as we are also coming across non-Muslim reviews acknowledging James White’s poor defence of the alleged inspiration of the New Testament writings. For instance, one non-Muslim reviewer writes (bold added):

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